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The Wis
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:08:00 -
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Here is a link to my video of my guys undocking. Hope you like it. Or hate it.
My Guys undocking. Almost all of them. http://youtu.be/pAoaW0vyKR8
And here is the older video once again of popping and ice roid. Yes it can be done. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc1D6cQjekk
Fly Safe friends..
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The Wis
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:18:00 -
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I just put the computer specs there becouse allot of people have asked so it was easier to add it for them.
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The Wis
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:25:00 -
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Gogela wrote:I can't believe this is allowed  .....
Why would it not be allowed. Look at what CCP makes. Plex's are not seeded in the game someone had to pay real money for them. So CCP makes about $20,000 a year off me alone. Why would they not allow that?
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The Wis
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:27:00 -
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Hannah Flex wrote:One question: Why?
Why 100 miners? Most people have 4-6, why do you need soo much isk? What do you spend isk on? Is playing EVE enjoyable for you?
Becouse I want to see how far I can push it. Just how many accounts can I get to run on 1 computer and on my 6mb/1mb DSL connection and still be able to watch netflix. Good job CCP.
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:30:00 -
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Glathull wrote:This would be awesomesauce if you had a thousand people. 100 is a pretty boring number.
If I come accross some more old computers and monitors I will see what I can do. Right now hardware is my limit. |

The Wis
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:31:00 -
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Hannah Flex wrote:The Wis wrote:Hannah Flex wrote:One question: Why?
Why 100 miners? Most people have 4-6, why do you need soo much isk? What do you spend isk on? Is playing EVE enjoyable for you? Becouse I want to see how far I can push it. Just how many accounts can I get to run on 1 computer and on my 6mb/1mb DSL connection and still be able to watch netflix. Good job CCP. So if the goal is to get all these miners running then watch netflix, what is the purpose of the miners? Clearly to farm isk, but what do you farm isk for?
To Pay for Plexs and ships I like to fly. We all play our own way. That is the nice thing about this game. It is also fun to help out friends when they need help. |

The Wis
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:33:00 -
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Brandon Syne wrote:How do you control them all? What are your system specs to run such a number of characters? Any good tips to an aspiring large-scale multiboxer?
The best tip is to use and SSD drive.. Those are so fast on one of my computers when I was maxed at 16 accounts I was able to get up to 30 with just the SSD drive. Also to cut down on lag on all the clients. Switch to Map view of the Solar system that saves allot and they run allot smother then.
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The Wis
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:37:00 -
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Haseo Antares wrote:How long does it take to log in all those toons?
About 45 min total. to get them all loged in and fleeted.. I have allot of what I do as hot keys on a Logitec game pad. All computers are running synergy for the Keyboard and mouse so it is like multimonitors on one computer. Just move my mouse to the screen I want to control..
I do not stack the eve icons so I just go accross the tool bar to bring them all up on the screen. All laid out the same do what I need to one then use the WindowsKey down arrow I have mapped to game pad to minize that window and repeat. Makes going though all the guys so much easier.
Not the best way for PVP but for Mining ice it is ever nice.
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The Wis
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:39:00 -
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Brandon Syne wrote:The Wis wrote:Brandon Syne wrote:How do you control them all? What are your system specs to run such a number of characters? Any good tips to an aspiring large-scale multiboxer? The best tip is to use and SSD drive.. Those are so fast on one of my computers when I was maxed at 16 accounts I was able to get up to 30 with just the SSD drive. Also to cut down on lag on all the clients. Switch to Map view of the Solar system that saves allot and they run allot smother then. So is 30 the most you got to run on a single PC?
Well yes.. But that is only a dual core 1.6GHz with 8GB of Ram and a 2GB video card. If I use my main computer I can do more but I have my clients on there set for max graphics..
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The Wis
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:40:00 -
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Hannah Flex wrote:The Wis wrote:Hannah Flex wrote:The Wis wrote:Hannah Flex wrote:One question: Why?
Why 100 miners? Most people have 4-6, why do you need soo much isk? What do you spend isk on? Is playing EVE enjoyable for you? Becouse I want to see how far I can push it. Just how many accounts can I get to run on 1 computer and on my 6mb/1mb DSL connection and still be able to watch netflix. Good job CCP. So if the goal is to get all these miners running then watch netflix, what is the purpose of the miners? Clearly to farm isk, but what do you farm isk for? To Pay for Plexs and ships I like to fly. We all play our own way. That is the nice thing about this game. It is also fun to help out friends when they need help. I do all that with 2 accounts, you just seem to be creating a ton of work for yourself and then trying to convince yourself you enjoy it.
I am just someone that loves to multitask. More then other people.
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The Wis
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:41:00 -
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Din Chao wrote:This is honestly the first time I've considered taking up suicide ganking.
Oh it can be fun that is for sure.
I usally like to point out the botters in a system for the gankers.
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The Wis
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:50:00 -
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Brandon Syne wrote:The Wis wrote:Brandon Syne wrote:The Wis wrote:Brandon Syne wrote:How do you control them all? What are your system specs to run such a number of characters? Any good tips to an aspiring large-scale multiboxer? The best tip is to use and SSD drive.. Those are so fast on one of my computers when I was maxed at 16 accounts I was able to get up to 30 with just the SSD drive. Also to cut down on lag on all the clients. Switch to Map view of the Solar system that saves allot and they run allot smother then. So is 30 the most you got to run on a single PC? Well yes.. But that is only a dual core 1.6GHz with 8GB of Ram and a 2GB video card. If I use my main computer I can do more but I have my clients on there set for max graphics.. That's very impressive. I assume you were using the SSD as a pagefile? How are framerates with that setup? What would you say is the biggest bottleneck after RAM: CPU, or GPU?
The biggest bottleneck for this many clients is the hard drive. so SSD really helps. Then Ram then CPU.
I use for the mining computers SSD drive as the only drive. 90GB refurbish cost me $45.00 and is enough room for windows 7 and eve. But if you are not going to use it for the main drive I would put the eve client and the profiles and the page file on it..
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The Wis
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:56:00 -
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Freighdee Katt wrote:I wonder two things: (1) how many hours a month do you spend in-game running this fleet; and (2) how much did you spend training up 100 characters and fitting out 100 Hulks before this atrocity became self-sustaining?
Well retrivers also work well and you can get a toon in a retriver in about 1 to 2 weeks. So you can get up and running pretty fast. Allot of thinks go to CCP with the latest updates now with 30 min to fill a Mack instead of 10 min. Just means more time to get more guys out there before I have to start unloading the guys.
Just some crazy numbers for you.. All guys combined now.
I have logged in a total of 54,331 I have played for a total of 21,585,668 min That is 41.07 years. And I have a total skill points of 1,399,803,943
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The Wis
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:58:00 -
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Din Chao wrote:Gogela wrote:The Wis wrote:Gogela wrote:I can't believe this is allowed  ..... Why would it not be allowed. Look at what CCP makes. Plex's are not seeded in the game someone had to pay real money for them. So CCP makes about $20,000 a year off me alone. Why would they not allow that? I dunno... yah I use PLEX too but you would think this would hurt the quality of the game itself, you know? If the golden goose gets sick it'll lay fewer eggs... that would be my thinking. I mean, I get your contribution to CCPs bottom line... but I'm thinking long term vs incidental does it make sense... that I don't know. No no no. You don't get it. Goons are destroying the game! This guy is just a miner. He doesn't hurt anyone. 
I try not to hurt anyone. The goons can be a pain. I still to this day get crank phone calls since the Mittani came after me at the last fan fest. At least it is not not game but it is sick to think a year has past and there are still some guys out there trying to push me in real life.
It does suck I have always wanted to go to fanfest if I could affored it.. Now I could care less.
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The Wis
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Posted - 2013.02.01 20:01:00 -
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Eric Ryan wrote:The Wis wrote:Haseo Antares wrote:How long does it take to log in all those toons? About 45 min total. 41 accounts...takes about 10 minutes. You are doing something wrong.
Well I find if I long them in real fast some do not load correctly. So I have to log them back out and back in. So it is easer to go 4 at a time one on each computer. Join the fleet setup the windows then go to the next. Sometimes less then 45 min.
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The Wis
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Posted - 2013.02.01 20:03:00 -
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silens vesica wrote: Holy gankbait, batman! Somewhere, a belt is about to die. Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Shows video of massive mining fleet undocking to prove hes not a botter....shows no proof of hardware beyond what is typed on screen.
I can take a vidoe of the Jita undock and type whatever I want on the video...and I guess we will all just have to believe that all of Jita is just me controlling 450+ accounts. Heh. All true. Still an impressive freight train of barges. James 315 must be spinning like a top.
Thanks. I am working on getting my guys ready for another one.. I want to do 140 Battleships.. Not sure if I want to do all the same or some of everyone..
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The Wis
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Posted - 2013.02.01 20:04:00 -
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The Wis wrote:Eric Ryan wrote:The Wis wrote:Haseo Antares wrote:How long does it take to log in all those toons? About 45 min total. 41 accounts...takes about 10 minutes. You are doing something wrong. Well I find if I long them in real fast some do not load correctly. So I have to log them back out and back in. So it is easer to go 4 at a time one on each computer. Join the fleet setup the windows then go to the next. Sometimes less then 45 min.
Also if I was to use isboxer to handle all the guys then it would be allot faster. But isboxer does not like more then 16 accounts per computer.
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Posted - 2013.02.01 20:07:00 -
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Brandon Syne wrote:The Wis wrote:silens vesica wrote: Holy gankbait, batman! Somewhere, a belt is about to die. Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Shows video of massive mining fleet undocking to prove hes not a botter....shows no proof of hardware beyond what is typed on screen.
I can take a vidoe of the Jita undock and type whatever I want on the video...and I guess we will all just have to believe that all of Jita is just me controlling 450+ accounts. Heh. All true. Still an impressive freight train of barges. James 315 must be spinning like a top. Thanks. I am working on getting my guys ready for another one.. I want to do 140 Battleships.. Not sure if I want to do all the same or some of everyone.. Aren't battleships slightly harder to control effectively than Mackinaws? Are you planning on using some software like ISBoxer?
Well I do not plan on using them to fight. But Just to make a video.. ALlot you can do with fleet comands. Just looking for something cool to do.. Also if you have any drone boat and launch drones and assign them to 1 guys. Well that is allot of drones going at one target.
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Posted - 2013.02.01 20:18:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:The Wis wrote:silens vesica wrote: Holy gankbait, batman! Somewhere, a belt is about to die. Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Shows video of massive mining fleet undocking to prove hes not a botter....shows no proof of hardware beyond what is typed on screen.
I can take a vidoe of the Jita undock and type whatever I want on the video...and I guess we will all just have to believe that all of Jita is just me controlling 450+ accounts. Heh. All true. Still an impressive freight train of barges. James 315 must be spinning like a top. Thanks. I am working on getting my guys ready for another one.. I want to do 140 Battleships.. Not sure if I want to do all the same or some of everyone.. Let us know - I'll watch it. Hell, that vid of the barges might be useful promo footage for CCP, though I doubt they'd want to publicly comment on the multi-boxing aspect. A similar caravan of battleships or mixed battleships, battlecruisers, and crusiers would be probably be even more useful.
So true.. I need to have enough guys to have them all fly 1 of each and every ship there is in eve and then make a video of that. Wonder how long it would take to undock that many ships.
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The Wis
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Posted - 2013.02.02 00:16:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:You forgot to add how much RL money you are making with those accounts. I am sure inquiring minds want to know.
Sure.. I make.. 0 It is agenst the Rules to sell isks or plexs for RL money.
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The Wis
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Posted - 2013.02.02 00:21:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:Eric Ryan wrote:Derath Ellecon wrote: Geez, in 45min this morning I had made 250mil already
Hate to burst your bubble but after he logs them he should be able to pull over 800 mil per hour. Everyday. All day. Good luck keeping pace with that with your 250 million. And? Over 100 accounts that works out to 80 mil an hour. and to plex those 100 accounts. He needs 56 billion a month. (figuring on 560mil per plex) I on the other hand did it with 3 active accounts. And only 2 running the sites, so that gives me 125mil per toon. And I only need 1.7 bil a month to plex my 3 toons. So it takes him about say 70 hours of running those 100 accounts to break even (pay his plex). I doublt I even put 70 hours into this game total a month. It takes me about 7 hours to break even (pay my 3 plex) And even largely AFK ice mining, he still has to unload 100 ore holds every ??? (have no idea how long it takes to fill one up) which still has to be work. Heck logging in the accounts is 45 minutes of actual work even before he can start doing anything. Consider my bubble just fine thanks.
Well it takes about 30 min to fill the ore hold.. 45 min to get all the guys logged in. Does not mean I have to wait 45 min to start Log one in add to fleet undock long next one in while it is logging in warp to belt with 1st one and start the mining etc.. Get to the last one 45 all logged in and mining time to start unloading.
Since it is pretty easy mining ice I can sit idle mining while waiting on Work oders in RL to come in. In the evening or on weekends when I do not have to catch work orders and can really play then I have the isks to do what I wish to do with it.
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The Wis
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Posted - 2013.02.02 04:16:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Andski wrote:oh yeah if we're going to compare the risks in holding tech moons with the risks in hisec ice mining, let's go
if your tech moon gets reinforced, you can either give up and lose the moon when they return after the timer to siege it and drop their own tower, or you can defend it by putting your ships on the field along with triage carriers to rep it past 50% to restront - if hostiles decide to engage anyway, and are successful, you lose a bunch of triage carriers and possibly a fleet, and the only way to get that moon back is to reinforce it yourself, possibly with the need to kite it so that it comes out in a timezone favorable to you - this is not fun or effortless
if your mackinaw gets suicide ganked, you buy another one for a couple hundred mil
so yeah, tech moons are completely effortless and risk-free Nerf tech moons, boo to all tech moons. Ice in highsec needs a good buffing.
Well I think ice in highsec needs some change.. Like have them replunish say once a month not every day.
I mean for the smallest ice roid all 100 of my guys 6 hours just to pop it. No way an ice belt would be killed in 1 day much less in 30 days.
Also it is nice to have the numbers to be able to supply enough ice for fuel for 1 month for a large POS in 30 min. Some days I am busy so do not mine all day.
And with being able to do this I do not see why anyone bot mines.
And as far as the plex's go at least I get them off the market by adding the time to my accounts. instead of the guys that buy and sell to raise the prices.. If anything I am keeping the prices down on the plex's.
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Posted - 2013.02.02 04:43:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:The Wis wrote:And as far as the plex's go at least I get them off the market by adding the time to my accounts. instead of the guys that buy and sell to raise the prices.. If anything I am keeping the prices down on the plex's.
You're contributing to the rising costs about as much as they are.
I try not too. I usally look at the prices the pick a price between the buy and sell and put an order in. To pull the prices down.
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The Wis
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Posted - 2013.02.02 05:38:00 -
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Jason Xado wrote:Impresive.
I'm only up to 12 accounts, but who knows where it goes. Like you I like to push limits and see what happens.
You sir are an inspiration :-)
Also people need to understand it doesn't really matter how many miners you multibox. It takes just as long to mine a block of ice with one miner as it does to mine two blocks of ice with two miners. Weather I'm multiboxing one account or a million it takes the same amount of mining. The only thing that doesn't scale is set up time and what not but there are ways to mitigate that.
I do have a question. What do you mean by ISBoxer can't handle more that 16 accounts on one box. What exactly happens? I was hoping to use one box to go more than 16 accounts. My box seems to handle 12 without even blinking if I turn down all the graphic settings and resolution to minimum values.
Anyway, keep up the good work. It's nice to have a hobby :-) Well for laying out the windows isboxer has no option that I have found for a 17th window. But you can use more then one computer and have 16 per computer. So that will work.
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The Wis
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Posted - 2013.02.02 05:43:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:*cough*bullsh*t*cough* at the very least you use key stroke replication. No do not use key stroke replication.. No real need.. Just do what you need on each client and go to the next..
On all 4 mining computers I will pull up all the clients each screen stacked. Use a hot key to undock and then windowskey down arrow to the next client undock repeate. Or undock computer 1 undock computer 2 then 3 then 4 back to 1 warp to belt 2 warp to belt 3 warp to belt then 4 back to 1 start mining minize undock next client computer 2 start mining minimize undoc etc. so just keep doing a circle over all 4 computers for 25 clients per computer. Takes only a few min to get all the guys out to the belt and start mining so then wait about 25 to 30 min with all the clients out. first ones that were sent out should be first ones full do dock up pretty much same thing as before just backwards.
Really not that hard and no need to use bot software.
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Posted - 2013.02.02 06:12:00 -
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Urgg Boolean wrote:CCP better hope that you don't decide to quit. If your number is anywhere close to accurate :: $20K/month will pay for about 2 employees + benefits.
Awesome vidz dude. I really like how you showed the same scene from different perspectives and zoomed in from different angles.
We could have made a video of the masstest yesterday using your techniques.
Good job. Good work. It was in real time. Thanks.. And it is not 20K a month but 20K a year.
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Posted - 2013.02.02 06:13:00 -
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Ohishi wrote:Are you the guy that undocked like 30 charons from Jita?
No that was not me.
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The Wis
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Posted - 2013.02.02 15:40:00 -
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flakeys wrote:What i would like to know seeing that , do you have a job ?
Yes I do have a job. I work for my self. And the work is usally slow. I own my home and land and do not need much to make ends meet.
I spend allot of time at home waiting for work orders to come in and will take off to do the work when it does come in.
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Posted - 2013.02.02 15:44:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:I'm going to speak, uninformed, here since I didn't read the entire thread. So, I apologize before hand if I am wrong.
There is no way you'll convince me you're not replicating your keyboard/mouse clicks which is or at least was against the EULA/TOS. Not that I really care. I'm just saying.
Also, you're all that is wrong with the Eve universe. Good day, Sir!
Well if you look at ice mining and the way I do it there is no need to replicate the keyboard and mouse clicks. Even if I did replicate them it is not agenst the EULA/TOS since they allow isboxer witch does that it self. Once you have a steady pattern down it is very easy to handle allot of clients and you do not have to handle them all at once. If I did replicate all keyboard and mouse you would see all my guys undock at the exact same time and not one by one like they did in the video. I do use the fleet warp command to move them sometimes.
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Posted - 2013.02.02 15:49:00 -
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Brandon Syne wrote:enterprisePSI wrote:Having the page file on the SSD, reduces the life span of the SSD.
I bought a new SSD a month ago and immediately put my pagefile on it. It has now expended 0.6% of it's theoretical lifetime. So this is hardly a big deal.
\Well I buy cheap referbish SSD drives small ones and put the whole OS on them. When they go bad there are tricks to recovering them and getting them to work again. Every night I do a full backup and since the SSD drives are so fast if one crashs I can have the system back up in about 30 min and back to playing.
Of course Computers and networking is my field so I am very use to this.
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Posted - 2013.02.02 15:52:00 -
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Hir Miriel wrote:Hmm, with that many ships you could create art.
Get them all mining and then position them so the beams create a laser show, or artwork.
I have been trying to work on that. I keep trying to think what would be cool. Would like to be able to do like a laser light show to the music.
But for 1 man that is very hard to jump around to different clients to switch lasters etc.
I myself have never been much of an artist I am more computers networking and math person.
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Posted - 2013.02.02 15:59:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote:Brandon Syne wrote:The Wis wrote: Well for laying out the windows isboxer has no option that I have found for a 17th window. But you can use more then one computer and have 16 per computer. So that will work.
Really? Is this a hard limit or can you increase that number by having more screen resolution? This will throw a massive spanner in my works if it is true :/ If you stretch the desktop between screens then you have sufficient real estate. Though why not alt tab between them?
Well I have plently of real estate. All seems to go find till I add the 17th account. For some reason isboxer will not allow me to add a 17th window to the layout. Under the Windows layout option where you select the clients home region it will only go up to 16.
Alt tab between clients works find for a few but when you have a lot of clients then it is Alt TAB TAB TAB TAB TAB TAB TAB getting a little hard. So I just do not stack my eve clients on the tool mark. So there is a line accrouse the bottom of my screen for all the clients. I stick with 25 per computer becouse they are on 22" wide screen monitors and when I get over 25 clients then my tool back becomes 2 rows with is a little harder for the last few clients.
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Posted - 2013.02.02 16:23:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote:The Wis wrote:Mr Kidd wrote:I'm going to speak, uninformed, here since I didn't read the entire thread. So, I apologize before hand if I am wrong.
There is no way you'll convince me you're not replicating your keyboard/mouse clicks which is or at least was against the EULA/TOS. Not that I really care. I'm just saying.
Also, you're all that is wrong with the Eve universe. Good day, Sir! Well if you look at ice mining and the way I do it there is no need to replicate the keyboard and mouse clicks. Even if I did replicate them it is not agenst the EULA/TOS since they allow isboxer witch does that it self. Once you have a steady pattern down it is very easy to handle allot of clients and you do not have to handle them all at once. If I did replicate all keyboard and mouse you would see all my guys undock at the exact same time and not one by one like they did in the video. I do use the fleet warp command to move them sometimes. Didnt I try to wage war on you under the command of Erotica1 once? Also you do know you can use the mouse in alt tab and it will show what you are going to select, right?
Yes I know I can use the mouse. Just with them accross the bottom of the screen I find it allot faster for me. Most of the time I click on each and every one so they are all stacked.. Then do I what I need on top one then minize and repeat. With all the windows laid out the same I can keep mouse over 1 spot and I do not have to move very much at all.
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The Wis
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Posted - 2013.02.02 18:11:00 -
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Brandon Syne wrote:Is it true that buying a 1 year isboxer license actually gives you a license to use the software on up to 5 computers?
I am not sure if there is a limit to the number of computers you can use it on. I have use it on all 6 computers with no problem.
But for me since most of my mining computers are not very good gaming computers I do not use it to mine. That way I can run more clients per PC.
They are just old e-machines.
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Posted - 2013.02.02 19:29:00 -
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Inspiration wrote:Dont get connection issues....that would be brutally horrible!
Every now and then. Maybe once a month when there is a bad storm then I might lose connection with 1/4 to 1/2 the clients. Or when CCP has a problem with one of there servers or something.
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Posted - 2013.02.02 23:48:00 -
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Captain Tardbar wrote:The Wis wrote:Gogela wrote:I can't believe this is allowed  ..... Why would it not be allowed. Look at what CCP makes. Plex's are not seeded in the game someone had to pay real money for them. So CCP makes about $20,000 a year off me alone. Why would they not allow that? You know that much money spent on entertainment should entail prostitues and blow.
Hmmm.. Show me a prostitute that takes isks. and I do not mean the ones in game :)
Still trying to get my power company to take isks. So far my psychiatrist takes isks next the power company.
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Posted - 2013.02.03 00:31:00 -
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Nex Killer wrote:Don't want to read the full thread but that was cool. Op do you use ISBoxer at all or do you do it all by hand? And if you don't use ISBoxer why not?
I do use isboxer some but not for mining. I can run more clients with out isboxer. But when Pve or PVP I use isboxer.
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The Wis
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Posted - 2013.02.03 03:00:00 -
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Anell wrote:I'm skipping most of this thread, but I just wanted to say that I liked your choice of music so much I instantly bought it off amazon. Excellent song!
Also I dig your crazy mining fleet. Every time I think I can ballpark the diversity of gameplay in EVE I get surprised.
Thanks.. It gets hard to chose I think I have a little over 2000 different songs on my drive. A little bit of everything.
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Posted - 2013.02.03 17:14:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:See, that's WoW. Everyone knows there aren't any girls that play EVE.
Well I am happy to say I have never even thought about downloading WoW.
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Posted - 2013.02.03 18:14:00 -
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AkJon Ferguson wrote:The most important question to me is why hasn't this fleet been ganked yet?
If this person enjoys some sort of griefer-immunity due to the fanfest incident (which was deplorable, but whose shelf life has run its course imo,) then that's not fair to the rest of us and isn't in the spirit of EVE. That immunity needs to be lifted.
If it's because nobody can be arsed to fleet a half dozen (overkill?) smartbombing bs's and get the most epic suicide gank of all time, then shame on the eve griefer community.
Oh I have had allot of ganks.. That is part of the game.. No Immunity yet. Last good gank attempt was 20 BS's and they killed 3 retrivers.
Also you say it has ran its course. Well that it has not I still get crank phone calls daily and e-mails in my personal e-mail. They are just not in game so nothing CCP can do about that.
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:43:00 -
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No Alibi wrote:I remember when you wrote you name in an Ice belt not that long ago....HAHA! 
Yea.. That was in Dantan and I did not write that.. Someone else did.. He tried to do it before I logged on to get a laugh.. I logged on when he was working on the S
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:56:00 -
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Ave Kathrina wrote:Your videos are awesome.
But ignoring all the trolls/goons/miners etc etc etc.... maybe if you didn't **** 20k away on Eve a year you could afford to go to FanFest ????
Wouldn't you love to be in that room, where The Wis gets introduced to The Mittani ?
I would love to have 20k to thow away. Shoot I would love to have $30 a month to thow away. If it was not for plex's I would not be able to keep playing eve.
Also with the number of haters out there towards me I would not go to fanfest.
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Posted - 2013.02.04 23:04:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Darth Gustav wrote: I've seen his operation in-person. Many of his accounts remain docked in the station in the system where he mines. Rare is the occurrence of stumbling across The Wis using all of his accounts actively. So that deficit you mentioned in the ISK per account ratio actually hits him more than you may think.
The truth is he feels the devaluation even more than the solo or casual guy.
That's entirely because he's multiplying the devaluation by some number less than one hundred and then using the reduced proceeds to try to keep all one hundred accounts subbed.
The Wis is most certainly mining enough to even hurt The Wis.
This explanation doesn't add up - even if Wis did push down the collective ice economy significantly, he could just not sell every chunk of ice he mines right way and continue using all of his mining accounts while stockpiling No matter how you look at it, two things are true: 1) The product of any positive integer and 100 is greater than the product of that integer and one. That means The Wis feels the pain of devaluation 100x more than the little guy. 2) The Wis does not typically mine with all 100 accounts concurrently. That means he feels the pinch of the ice product price drop even more when he tries to sub all of his 100 accounts using less than 100 accounts to earn that ISK with. This seems pretty self-explanatory to me.
Well I have a total of 145 accounts. 102 of them are mining and then I have eyes to watch other systems and other accounts I use for PVE PVP etc. Most of the time 95% of the guys mining are out in the belt. the other 5% are docking up and unloading..
True I can do more but using Frieghters to haul ice back to station but that would mean I need to cluster my guys together and jetcan and that would make for an easy gank so not wise.
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Posted - 2013.02.04 23:09:00 -
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Also wanted to add since I have been doing this I have had a lot of people ask me questions and I know of 5 different people that are now up to 40 accounts each and growing.
Now it goes without saying that some of these guys are also training skills on these toon to sale for isks later.
I do not really see CCP ever saying we need to put a cap on this. I mean each extra accounts comes to about $15 more a month for CCP. What company will really say we are making too much money we need to stop this?
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Posted - 2013.02.04 23:12:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:The Wis wrote:True I can do more but using Frieghters to haul ice back to station but that would mean I need to cluster my guys together and jetcan and that would make for an easy gank so not wise.
You could jetcan, use an Orca to tractor the cans to the Freighter and work it that way. Kind of the way Saudi Arabia runs offshore loading platforms for Oil tankers.
Oh I know that.. But it is easier to cluster them and jet can. I fill up to Obelisks every 20 to 25 min and talking about 100 cans. That would be a whole lot to tractor.
If I do the tractor I would use a noctice to pull the cans to a frigher. But you wind up spending more time tractoring then anything else. |

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Posted - 2013.02.05 02:31:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:Strange. Any time me or my corporation come to the system where you mine, it seems to be more like 60-70 of your accounts docked with none in the belts. This persists at least as long as we are there.
I cannot presume that we are alone in causing this behavior.
I know for a fact you have to make due with less than 100 accounts mining full-time.
Yea.. Ok. yea.. you got me there is no one anyone can ever mine with more then 10 to 20 guys.. Just can not be done. I might sujest getting your eyes checked maybe. Just kidding.
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Posted - 2013.02.05 02:44:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:The Wis wrote:Darth Gustav wrote:Strange. Any time me or my corporation come to the system where you mine, it seems to be more like 60-70 of your accounts docked with none in the belts. This persists at least as long as we are there.
I cannot presume that we are alone in causing this behavior.
I know for a fact you have to make due with less than 100 accounts mining full-time. Yea.. Ok. yea.. you got me there is no one anyone can ever mine with more then 10 to 20 guys.. Just can not be done. I might sujest getting your eyes checked maybe. Just kidding. I'm sure you don't understand now, so I'll apologize and then explain. I am sorry for not being straightforward. My corporation has smartbombed you with success in the past. When we enter Agal now, you dock up. All of your accounts. They stay that way until we leave. In your absence, we settle for ganking less savvy miners and moving on. However, you are definitely in-station with 60-70 of your Mackinaw pilots (and undoubtedly at least one mining capital) during our ganks. I assume other corporations have also successfully ganked you. For this reason, I also assume you dock up if and when they enter Agal, as well. I assume this because the game supports a personal and corporate standings setting for individuals as well as corporations. I'm fairly certain, good sir, that we are red. So what I'm saying is that you dock up to stay safe, which is smart. But it still means you're docked with a bunch of accounts.
Ok.. Yea I understand.. Good troll..
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Posted - 2013.02.05 18:18:00 -
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Yim Sei wrote:The Wis wrote:[quote=Darth Gustav][quote=The Wis][quote=Darth Gustav].........quote]
Ok.. Yea I understand.. Good troll..
But FYI you are not set red to me. So you are hinting that your toons 'automatically' dock up??? CCP please ban this botter.
No my guys do not automatically dock up. I am not sure what that other guys is saying that my guys are docked up whenever his guys come into system. Many times one or 2 of them will come into my group and say what pretty lights.
And CCP knows I am not a botter and I do not suport botters. I do not hesitate reporting people I think are botting.
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Posted - 2013.02.05 18:20:00 -
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Shawnm339 wrote:Just once a month get a 100 rifters together and go and cause some havoc in lowsec
Would be fun. But try getting the sercurty leavle back on 100 accounts. I hear allot of people working hard grinding missions killing rats just to get there account up to were they can get back into hisec.
Now do that on 100 accounts. That would not be fun.
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Posted - 2013.02.05 18:25:00 -
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Giddeon Finnk wrote:Are you using bots to send commands to all those alts ? how do you managed to alt tab thru 100 clients and change astroid ?
If your using a Botting program is this allowed ? and where can i get one :)
No botting programs. and I mine ice with these numbers. It takes all 100 guys 6 hours to deplete the smallest ice roid.
I do not use alt tab.. Instead I have all the clients icons not stacked on the tool back. All screens are laid out the same. I click accross the tool bar to bring them all up on the screen. Then do what I need to do on the top one and then minize it using the windowskey down arrow that I have mapped to a key on the logitec gamepad.
With this I can go though all the clients pretty fast if I leave them all up stacked. If I need to dock them up I right click on the station chose dock minize repeat. Then move mouse to next screen and repeat.
I think allot of people over think the game and make it allot harder then what it is. I feel sorry that if you think you need some type of computer control to handle more the 5 clients.
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Posted - 2013.02.05 18:29:00 -
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Lord LazyGhost wrote:Giddeon Finnk wrote:Are you using bots to send commands to all those alts ? how do you managed to alt tab thru 100 clients and change astroid ?
If your using a Botting program is this allowed ? and where can i get one :) he is useing a multiboxing program. which is allowed. you command on one screen it and replicationsthe commands on all other windows you have open
That is one way you can do that. But I am not using isboxer or any other multiboxing program. Just 5 PC with synergy as the keyboard and mouse so I just move mouse to the screen I want to control. I use as many hotkeys as I can even for undocking and have them mapped to a logitch game pad.
Isboxer when I first looked at it was $35 a year. Now it is $50 a year. I need to redo my licence with isboxer and check it out a little more. To see how many I am push with that. To have 100 guys undock at the exact same time would be allot of work on the comptuer. The biggest slow down is when docking, undocking and jumping gates since the client need to load the new enviroment for each client. So if I get them all to do it at the same time could cause problems. So I find for me and my limited hardware that undocking 1 by 1 is easer on the computer and smother.
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Posted - 2013.02.05 18:32:00 -
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Lord Rixus wrote:You're a spectacular ****** for making a public video of your antics. This is exactly the type of thing that makes companies choose a zero tolerance policy on 3rd party programs.
This is why we cant have nice things.
Well I am not using any 3rd party programs. I am just showing that you do not need to use 3rd party programs to handle multiple clients.
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Posted - 2013.02.05 18:41:00 -
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Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:The Wis wrote:Shawnm339 wrote:Just once a month get a 100 rifters together and go and cause some havoc in lowsec Would be fun. But try getting the sercurty leavle back on 100 accounts. I hear allot of people working hard grinding missions killing rats just to get there account up to were they can get back into hisec. Now do that on 100 accounts. That would not be fun. Actually, it is rather easy. We do this sort of thing routinely. In your case, the tricky part will be finding a place where you can find battleship rats consistently and in neighboring systems. You fleet up, go kill 1 BS rat with all your guys on grid. Then warp to the next system and and kill another BS rat. All your guys will get a sec status boost, and the bounty tick process resets when you change system. So you can get the bounty/sec boost every 5 minutes if you can just keep jumping to a different system to kill 1 good rat. Thinking about it, you would probably want to have a number of guys flying tier3 BC, and the rest can just stay in Rifters. It would be a pain to actually target and kill a BS using 100 rifters by yourself. The other guys only have to be in fleet and on grid to get bounties and sec boost. You have less of an excuse now Give in to the dark side
Good points I will have to look into that one day. I do go losec and I have been paid a few times to lose ships to pad someones kill board. I will not say who but there are people out there that want to see kills on there kill board.
I have played with 23 guys in BS with drones and finding a few systems and just leaving one in each belt to kill any rats that pop into the belt. I have not tried that in losec but in some of the hisec systems. Just for the fun of it.
And last month I did take all 100 guys in shuttles and 20 in BS and found a few big mining ops and warped all them to them and watching the talk in local about 120 bs landing on them to gank them and they ran like hell.
I have to say allot of miners that day were no longer constipated.
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